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Sept. 11 Newton Citizen Poll

The Newton Citizen Poll is a compilation of opinions submitted by readers. They do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Citizen newspapers. If you agree or disagree with something you read here, you may respond by emitting poll@newtoncitizen.com. Please remember that the Citizen Poll is not a forum for comments either for or in opposition to candidates seeking elective office.

"This is in response to the citizen that thinks I will get into trouble for catching cats. The cats I catch I take to Animal Control, and they are glad I catch them because they are an infestation, and as I explained cats should not be domesticated. If you were a true animal lover you wouldn't keep one in the house, and make your family suffer from smelly kitty litter, the spraying that males do, or the things that the cat drags in. Why are there people that just don't get it. Dogs can be domesticated. Cats cannot. Cats like bobcats or cougars, are beautiful animals. They are not meant to be bred and kept as house pets. Leave them in the wild and stop breeding these ugly little versions of them ...."

"To the person that was whining about the police, I just passed you and you was flashing your headlights to warn us of the copper ahead. What good does that do? That's why we don't see enough patrolling cause of idiots like you that want to be cool and you think you have a tough guy morale. Newton County crime is raising and I thank you for your whining. Do us a favor. Build you a suggestion box, cut a hole in the top and bottom and place it over your trash bin. What the sheriff/chief should do is start buying paddy wagon vans and with about four coppers riding deep and then fill them seats up while having to take a number ... free rides downtown and instead of having to protect and serve. have 'fighting crime busting punks' right on the side."

"Most will agree that first impressions are important and often are correct. If not correct, they are lasting. That being stated those in 'power' in Newton County and the city of Covington might want to put the 'heat" on the owners of the vacant Exxon fuel station at Exit 93 (I-20) & SR 142 and other locations that will be mentioned later. This looks like a bombarded remnant of the time when Sherman's troops moved through Newton County or it has achieved the highest award of a real eyesore for several years running. What a great impression this building and associated signage give first time visitors! Huh! When one travels down 142 towards Hwy. 278 and looks to the left just past Wendy's they can get a view of former housing buildings that look like many of the vacant housing projects in downtown Detroit. If one continues to travel on 142 and turns right on 278 to get to the Square they get a third impression of yet another long-standing eyesore, this being the partially demolished Shell fuel station, next to the former location of Covington Ford. This little tour was inspired by a song performed by Aaron Neville 'The Grand Tour' in his album with the same name."

"I just read the 'new and improved' Sunday (combination) edition of the Newton Citizen. I was underwhelmed. But my real issue is fairly basic; as the paper now stands, it is more of a history lesson than a newspaper. And with the reduction of product (from six issues a week to five), are subscribers going to get a refund on subscription costs?"

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"I would like to know how the homecoming court at Alcovy was chosen. My child (not a girl either) was very upset with the selection process. As the teachers were supposed to let the kids vote during class -- many of the teachers chose not to and many of the kids didn't get a vote. Come on teachers and administrators -- no this isn't a major political issue -- but where is the fairness in the process. Also, I remember my child's freshman year -- students were told that the choices needed to be even (as far as black and white) -- check out the sophomore class this year -- they're all black and the majority of those chosen were as well. And -- no I'm not white -- but fair is fair. If it's going to be mandated that way one year, it needs to be that way every year unless the students are told differently. Also, it makes you wonder if the choices would have been different if every student that wanted to vote was given the opportunity."

"The old man has been reminiscing again. I remember a wonderful lady with a beautiful voice who always started her program with the following; 'While the storm clouds gather far across the sea, let us pledge allegiance to a land that's free. Let us all be grateful for a land so fair, as we raise our voices in a solemn prayer. Then it goes on with God bless America, land that I love.' I guess so many have forgotten this wonderful lady and the song she sang. Her name was Kate Smith and she meant every word she sang. I wonder what has happened in this country since she sang such a wonderful song with such a beautiful voice? At one time we folded our hands and prayed to God, but then we got prosperous and found a new god. It was green and could give us anything we wanted. We continued praying to our green god and thumbed our noses at our real God. We started taking pills for everything because our green god gave us the way to do it. Then we decided everyone was having fun with dope so let's have some fun. We can afford it. Then we started spending on things we didn't need because we could. During this time we started idolizing crooks and guys who beat their girl friends. The father of those kids took off and forgot he had to help pay for them. The law called them deadbeat dads. We lost our pride, became rude, our ethics were gone and we just became slobs. Finally the bottom dropped out and we were left standing with nothing but the clothes on our back and they weren't paid for. Then the courts got quite lenient with those who broke the law. The police would bring them in and the lawyers and the courts would let them go. When the bottom dropped out and the powers that be said we should cut the police forces' finances, cut the school finances, cut Social Security, cut Medicare, cut Medicaid and cut everything but our salary and our perks, then they start asking questions like, do we need all of these old people, or we've got to get rid of some of these people who can't get a job. Other things ensued but that is enough for today. Next time I want to discuss music."

"On the Square: Our new wave of 'planners' have long wanted to cut down all the trees on the Covington Square! Two are gone already for no reason except someone's 'vision' was that we would be better off without them. They have now found another way to get rid of them. By having the concerts on the Square, we have compacted the soil to the point the trees will all soon die if we don't stop having large groups compacting the soil. We have two choices, (1) Move the Concerts on the Square or, (2) Lose all our beautiful magnolia trees on the Square. I would sure like to hear others post on this subject of whether our Square would ever be the same again without the magnolia trees. There are plenty of other places around the Square without endangering our trees to have the concerts. Leave our historic Square alone!"

I would like to comment on a rambling unsubstantiated narrative written by someone who believed the Covington Police could do no wrong. First, he failed to address the fact that the police blocked all the streets on both ends and also blocked the entire neighborhood where the Fuzz Run, along with other track events, are held. Second, he failed to address the fact that it is the duty of a police department to protect the rights and privileges of all citizens. They are not empowered to take away the rights of many for the pleasures of a few. Third, he stated that policemen got their legal authority to act from the state of Georgia. I believe we elect a mayor and council, and they then hire a chief of police who reports to them. City policemen are paid and hired by the city of Covington and they report to the chief; not the state of Georgia. Fourth, he gave no statistical nor verifiable data detailing the number of unsolved crimes in Covington as compared to the number committed. This would tell us how safe the city is. Fifth, he described a mansion as a residence with over 8,000 square feet. I looked up the definition of a mansion in four dictionaries (used for years by Newton County and other schools) and they all basically described the word 'mansion' as a dwelling or residence of considerable size. No amount of square footage was mentioned. Citizens in Newton County are confused as to why policemen and teachers are always complaining and belly-aching about low wages when they live in larger homes and drive nicer cars then the average Newton County citizen. Sixth, where a policeman or any other city employee chooses to live has no bearing whatsoever on the manner and efficiency in which a department head runs his department. I do not know who this person was trying to give some 'proper schooling,' but he failed his assignment miserably. I hope he is not a 'sworn' police officer."

"I am contacting the Sunday Citizen Poll in response to the person who defended the Covington Police Department when they block off the entire neighborhoods for their so-called Fuzz Run. This person's comments were high on sarcasm and short on facts. I wonder what planet he came from and what shift he works on for the Covington Police Department. He talks about two ways to egress and ingress one's home during the Fuzz Run, and that the people in the affected areas only know one way to get home. I live in the area and all streets are blocked. The only way you could get out would be to call a helicopter and have them airlift you from your roof. I will drive my car to one of the hospital parking lots or to the Kroger parking lot on Friday evening before the Fuzz Run. I will then walk to it on Saturday morning and drive to work. This is asking a lot from a woman over 55. The caller stated that a previous caller 'must have slept in class as you attended the Newton County Schools.' Based on his comments, I wonder if this police defender ever even attended school in order to have even slept in class."

"We, my wife and I, moved to Covington from Ohio after our retirement five years ago. Our comments are in regards to statements made by what appeared to be a police officer printed in your Sept. 4 Citizen Poll. This person seemed to infer that is acceptable and legal to block streets and deny a homeowner or business owner the right to enter or leave their property by vehicle as long as the denial is for a worthy cause. In Ohio, and other states we have lived in, property owners have what is referred to as 'fee simple' rights to their property along with that of 'quiet enjoyment.' This signifies that they can come and go 'at will.' When a government enforcement agency denies a person these rights (short of an emergency situation), it would appear that these rights have been abridged without proper cause and due process of law. This amounts to a weird form of condemnation where private lands are literally taken for private use instead of for public use. Not only is the use of one's property restricted, but their personal mobility is also curtailed. America was settled mostly by Europeans who had a strong desire to own their own property. In Covington it has become questionable whether the city or residents own the neighborhoods adjacent to Conyers Street. Are we approaching a Covington Police State?"

"Religious freedom? Discrimination? Political correctness? Obama has done it again. You can be sure he had the final sayso of the persons invited to participate in the special interfaith observance Sunday evening at the Washington National Cathedral. The two religions not included are Evangelicals and Southern Baptists. Participants do include a rabbi, Buddhist nun, representative from the cathedral, and, of course, an imam and Muslim musicians. Maybe they are the same ones he had at the White House for the third annual celebration of Ramadan. This man had the audacity to cancel observance at the White House of the National Day of Prayer and now does this -- a slap In the face to Evangelical and Southern Baptist Christians. I pray that we will remember this next November 2012 and make sure that Obama is a one term president!"

"I am a home health care provider. I see patients in the Conyers Street area. The caller who stated you could get to homes in that area where the Fuzz Run is needs some type of health care himself. I have to plan my schedule after the Fuzz Run to see my patients. The police at the road blocks will not let you through."

"I recently read where eight to 10 deputies are going to be sent to provide security for the Democratic National Convention, in Charlotte-Mecklenburg, N.C.. I thought the Newton County Sheriff's Office was short staffed and the county was facing a budget crisis? As a taxpayer, I would like to know who will be paying the salaries, insurance, travel expenses, hotels, and per diem expenses of these eight to 10 deputies while they are at the Democratic National Convention? I would hope that the Sheriff's Office will be compensated for their expenses! If the Sheriff's Department is not going to be compensated for their expenses, as a taxpayer, Sheriff please tell the citizens of Newton County how much this trip to the Democratic National Convention will cost us! Also, is our crime rate that low that we can afford to send 10 deputies to the Democratic National Convention? If so, then maybe the sheriff could help the county budget crisis by cutting his personnel budget by eight to 10 officers."

Comments

Silverbullet 2 years, 7 months ago

There used to be little white poles with chains on them all the way around the Covington square. The purpose was to keep people off the grass and to keep from compacting the soil and killing those wonderful old trees which are the icons of the City. Now we got people walking all over the grass, compacting the dirt, and listening to concerts. Move the dang concerts and save our trees!

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Silverbullet 2 years, 7 months ago

If people who use the square have to pay money for it or buy permits, all that money needs to go directly to the County for the maintenance of the square, nothing else!!!!

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Silverbullet 2 years, 7 months ago

Seems that the "Opinion" and the content of the other local newspaper have pitted the Newton Citizen and its "Citizen Poll" as the peoples' paper against the "News" as the paper of the local government leaders and the 'to do' crowd. Guess we always knew this but just no one ever said it out loud. In a battle of the people vs government and the select few, the people always win. As one of the 'people' and a reader of the Citizen, I already knew where my advertising dollars are best spent.

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John 2 years, 7 months ago

I seriously doubt that the few crowds that will gather to see the fall concerts will compact the earth around these trees enough to kill them. Mother Nature has a way of aerating the soils with rain, freezing temperatures, sometimes, snow or ice, dry periods, etc. and if that is not enough there is man & machine. Plus, the root system does go down several feet from the surface to get water & nutrients. Trees need to be "bottom feeders" to survive - droughts, heavy winds, etc. Heck, a well used cow path only compacts the surface a few inches. The trees will survive until their circle is complete.

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John 2 years, 7 months ago

It seems to me the Fuzz Run is a worthy event & it may inconvenience some but one should weigh this bit of inconvenience, held once a year, against the benefits of it's purpose. And even if your are over 55, a little exercise, walking, is good for you. I walk every day (at least 10,000 steps) and I'll soon be 67. I learned long ago the greater the age, the greater the need for exercise. Heck, my sister at 71 plays competitive tennis-helps with Arthur.

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KimberlyD 2 years, 7 months ago

The Fuzz Run is an awesome event for the community. I used to live in town and the road blocks could be a hassle but nothing that caused that much on a problem. I'm glad I live in a community where there is involvement that can pull all types of people together for all types of events. If they complainer doesn't like it MOVE!!! God Bless and protect our police and thank you for what you do!!! And a little bit of walking never hurt anybody.

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Silverbullet 2 years, 7 months ago

"Dear John" you are quite the muse. Please scan and post your degree as an Arboriculturist. I have already paid someone to test the soil at the Covington Park. Guess what? DOH! It is already compacted to the point where it is going to kill the trees and the only way to save them, as recommended by a professional, is to aerate all the soil around the trees and KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE GRASS!

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John 2 years, 7 months ago

Silverbullet, 1.) In my life I have been referred to as a lot of things. This is the first time I have been associated with "Greek mythology". So I take being referred to as a "muse" a compliment. 2.) You are spot on I do not have a degree as an Arboriculturist. The degrees I've earned are a BS in Engineering & an MBA. However, I have "Played in the Dirt" a good part of my life - grew up on a truck farm with crops & livestock & worked at a nursery on weekends & summers - did things like - cut & lay sod, soil preparation for the sod or seeded yards, planted shrubs & trees, etc, etc. 3.) In my comment I do make reference to the use of "Man & Machine (an aerator)" as a solution if Mother Nature activities is not sufficient. Certainly, soils will hardened during high temperatures without rain as the moisture is withdrawn. 4.) You may want to direct your cause to the City of Covington Mayor's office & others for possible consideration. 5.) DOH!? did you mean DUH?

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Silverbullet 2 years, 7 months ago

Greek Mythology is interesting. Muse is generally interpreted as one who is consumed with their own thoughts. Kinda like yourself. Im a 45 year plant researcher and organic farmer, back before it was popular. In internet speak, the term is DOH. I think the simple solution is just to have the COUNTY take back its property and maintain it for the benefit of all citizens (70,000 +) rather than the select few around the square. PS: You want to get a price for aeration of the soil on the square? Its a whole lot cheaper just to keep crowds of people on the sidewalks! PPS: BS in engineering and MBA indicates you have been educated beyond your intellect.

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phone 2 years, 7 months ago

Hey Silverbullet, if you paid someone to test the soil at the square, then you may be interested in buying a bridge that i have that goes across the Yellow River.

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Silverbullet 2 years, 7 months ago

I happen to have a friend who is an agronomist doing some work for me at the time. He only charged me for his time. Additionally, I believe we have a person on staff with the County already with a degree in soil sciences. Why dont we use them for free and you can have an unbiased professional opinion? You probably didnt know that Charles Darwin was a soil scientist. Stick around and you may learn something. Hey "Phone" you can be part of the problem or part of the solution. Looks like you have already decided to be part of the problem. Lot of that going around these days.You could go to Washington where your talents will really be appreciated.

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MarkB 2 years, 7 months ago

If the proposed congressional district changes are confirmed, the conservative citizens of west Newton County WILL NOT be represented.

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John 2 years, 7 months ago

According to Webster & Wikipedia they have a totally different generally accepted definition of the word muse - checked it out. Like DOH is a well know abbreviation for the Department of Health. Did a Google on it DOH and found no other "internet" definition. The population of Newton County as of 2010 Census was 99,958. No doubt you fell strongly about your position but the best way for you to "champion" your cause is go before the NC Board of Commissioner and/or the Mayors Office. That is where the solution to a change can start should they deem it is beneficial & necessary. Just have your "ducks in a row."

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phone 2 years, 7 months ago

Hey Silverbullet, judging from your user name, you either really love your beer and enjoy starting a good rant in your drunken stuper , or you believe in werewolves which would explain why you have a "the sky is fallling" mentality in discussions.

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Silverbullet 2 years, 7 months ago

WEBSTER- "To be absent in mind; to be so occupied in study or contemplation as not to observe passing scenes or things present." "DOH" has been the accepted internet speak for years for the old expression "DUH". My statement was not 70,000 but 70,000+. I know what the census says. We have lost a lot of people over the last two years. You dont read too well do you? Im appalled that anyone would pick a fight with someone here expressing an opinion on a subject of this type. The opinions expressed here by me are based upon factual and scientific results. Yours are based on.......? This is my first point of speculation on the subject. You are either a close friend of, a relative of, or in some way financially linked to someone who feels the need to continue with the current trend of abusing the Covington Square for personal financial gain. I am not. Your unsubstantiated banter serves no purpose and is the epitome of Albert Einstein's famous quote: "Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results." With the new Mayor and Council coming in and the existing Commission you will ultimately see the Covington Square saved and preserved for posterity and not used for the pleasure and greed of the few.

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savantghurl 2 years, 7 months ago

Silverbullet is accurate in the broad sense and in specifics. Mr. John and Phone, you both seem so immature. And for one who claims to have two degrees! It is certainly no wonder American industry is in dire straits if these are the caliber of grads we turn out. DOH and my nick GHURL are both brought back from Europe as an excambiare by those of us who spend a lot of time there. Silverbulllet is also correct in stating there is a County. employee on staff who can professionally clear up this controversy. Her name is Mrs. Bell. So let us find out who is spot on and who is blowing the smoke. I have already made my decision.

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John 2 years, 7 months ago

Savantghurll & Silverbullet FYI my statement of holding two degrees is not a myth or claim, it is a fact. They served me well in my career of 41 years. Further, you have validated what I have suggested to Silverbullet. This is, her issue(s) needs to be taken up with those in power within the City of Covington & Newton county for resolution, this forum won't "git 'er done".. Not once did I or anyone else deny there was someone on staff at the county - go plead the case with them - y'all know the name, go pursue. Secondly, the final census number was not concluded until late in 2010, the census was still being taken in September (I worked on the project in NC). So there must have been a mass exodus of 29,900+ or - people in NC in less than one year (not two years) that I missed. But at the same time public school enrollments increased. I am glad you had a chance to visit Europe - my Dad came from Italy & my Grandfather from Sweden - great places to visit, as well as, France & Great Britain, Japan, Mexico, Canada, Venezuela (before Chavez) plus the 42 of the 50 United States. I'll help with the speculation that I am a close friend and/or relative and/or business associate and/or any other possible connection financially connected to the Square is absolutely "SPOT OFF". I could care less about those trees. See trees are like people they have a life cycle, when it is over, there is no tomorrow only a different generation to fill-in. Finally, in my Webster's New World Dictionary, College Edition - muse is defined as: vi to stand with muzzle in the air; to think deeply and at length; meditate; vt to think or say meditatively; n deep meditation.
Then there is Muse: in Greek Mythology 1. any of the nine goddesses who presided over literature and the arts and sciences 2. the spirit that is thought to inspire a poet or other artist; source of genius or inspiration.

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Silverbullet 2 years, 7 months ago

Phone, thanks once again for your learned input. Silverbullet is a skilled marksman with all things that go boom, a science which requires reflexes, skill and nerve but you must be qualified in all those things since you seem to be a legend in your own mind. And, by the way your beer mentality has given you away. I do not drink. I think we have beaten this horse into the ground. My last post on this subject. Seeing a potential problem and offering possible solutions to preserve the square in Covington is not worth having to deal with sad, sad people like yourself. Ms. Savantghurl, hopefully you may seek to have the conditions I refer to tested and published or posted here for all to see.

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John 2 years, 7 months ago

Literally amazing, the "flag waver" and "champion" of her cause has passed the buck to another to resolve. Guess that is called delegation. Kinda' like what the Lone Ranger, the guy with the silver bullets, did to Tonto.
Whatever happened to the results of this test that was conducted? and I quote " I have already paid someone to test the soil at the Covington Park.". Why couldn't those be published?

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phone 2 years, 7 months ago

Savantghurl, my writing may come off as immature but yours comes off as egotistical and pompous! Who cares if DOH and GHURL are brought back from Europe. You state this as if this gives you superior knowledge because of your travels. If that were the measurement for knowledge, then Paris Hilton and the Kardashian sisters would leave you looking like a babbling imbecile. You seem to assume that my travels only consist of a trip around Epcot. While on the subject of a excambiare, feel free to use PHAT , oh great learned one. Silverbullet, I would choose to have gatherings that bring people together as a community. I agree with John. While I like trees, the ones on the square are not detrimental to the ecosystem there. Events like the Fourth of July fireworks and all the others are a great time of fellowship. You would choose to send people to a less suited place because you are worried about 10 to 13 trees. And why are you focusing just on the trees at the square? What about those poor trees up and down Floyd St. Those poor trees have roads and sidewalks all over their root systems and are being driven and walked on every day. I don't know how they survive!!!

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KimberlyD 2 years, 7 months ago

To the man that is capturing the cats.... I am a proud cat owner and my cats behave better than most dogs do. They've never chewed anything up or sprayed anything in my home. I do have a litter box that is emptied regularly and replaced with fresh litter. What makes you the animal expert whether an animal can be domesticated or not? They are human beings that are walking around our community that don't even act domesticated. If you see a cat and you know it's your neighbors cat, why trap the animal? That's just mean. That animal is not hurting you. It's not like it's a huge vicious dog that is going to attack you and maul you to death. And correct me if I'm wrong but aren't wolves related to the canine species? The last time I checked those are not easily domesticated. I pray that you can open you heart to love and accept all of God's beautiful creatures instead of being filled with dislike.

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John 2 years, 7 months ago

savantgurl, Since Europe is considered a continent and is made up of 47 different countries, with many different & varied languages, customs, history & dialects, etc. which one(s) did you spend a lot of time there to discover this new found level of sophistication. Excambiare seems to be a derivative of the Latin word excambio meaning change or exchange. And GURL seems to be best associated with "teenage" girls general 14 or younger..

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